বাৰ্তা:অশ্বমেধ

Real meaning of Ashvamedha

Please read this before editing. And I've explained why it's called Horse Sacrifice in "টোকা".

https://archive.org/details/englishtranslati00daya/page/80/mode/2up?q=Ashwamedh

This source may also be taken into consideration and the content can be added in the article in a NPOV only after I finish writing this. Please don't edit it till {{Edit conflict}} tag is there. ---Chandan Chiring Phukon  ^Chat 19:43, 6 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Whatever you do, don't give controversial meanings of Ashvamedha. If you're a Hindu you should be knowing this what is controversial & what's not. And I'll suggest you to see this article's Hindi version in Hindi Wikipedia. They gave less information about it rather than giving false information. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 03:32, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

What religion I follow is hardly any users concern. Moreover, we prefer English wikipedia rather than Hindi. -Chandan Chiring Phukon  ^Chat 04:49, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

That's why you're so arrogant. And how much you know that English Wikipedia is reliable? The Bengal Tiger I've edited in "India" article here but you guys locked the article. Go see "National animals list" article in English Wikipedia where someone tried to make India's national animal Bengal Tiger but "Yamla" an administrator from English Wikipedia reverted it. And use your brain rather than using your ego. I've given many sources where a some people stated the real meaning of Ashvamedha & some people can't explain it clearly as they didn't read the real copies of Yajurveda, Ramayana, Mahabharata etc. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 05:09, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Calling someone "arrogant" or "use your brain" is violation of WP:Personal attack. I am requesting you to take a note on that. -Chandan Chiring Phukon  ^Chat 06:04, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

And I'm requesting you to not do further WP:Edit warring with me when I give you Wikipedia: Reliable sources. Please take a note on that as I've no such tool like you to revert an edit & bring back what was there at once. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 06:20, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Being the creator of the page I have the privilege to state that edit warring is done from your end as the history of the page says. ---Chandan Chiring Phukon ^Chat 06:44, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

And being an editor I have the privilege to state that you're giving false information from the start of this article. So, be careful of edit warring as I've already given reliable sources yet you are repeatedly deleting it. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 07:35, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

If you think you have some reliable source then place it here in the talk page or wait until {{Edit conflict}} tag is removed to edit the same. If you want to say that only the source cited by you is reliable and others are to be removed then it is not done. -Chandan Chiring Phukon ^Chat 07:55, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

I didn't remove any source given by you. You surely have a ego. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 08:04, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Yes, you did here. -Chandan Chiring Phukon ^Chat 08:13, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

You're really blind by your ego. Your arrogant administrator did it without seeing the reliable sources I gave & without conversating with me. As I've said I have no such tool like you to revert an edit at once. I didn't remove any source here👉[1] Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 08:33, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

It does not address or support your claim for not removing the sources in the edit history I provided earlier. -Chandan Chiring Phukon ^Chat 08:46, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Moreover, by calling other users and admin "arrogant" and "blind by ego" you are continuously violating WP:Personal attack. -Chandan Chiring Phukon ^Chat 08:49, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

And why should I care about that? The administrator is a disgrace as an Indian as he relies on English Wikipedia instead of a Governmental source. As he did in Bengal Tiger & India articles and locked them. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 08:56, 7 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Now I'll be editing this article. So, please don't revert anything until I say here that I've finished. It'll take time. So, be patient.

Here's the real meaning of Ashvamedha and it's ritual-https://archive.org/details/the-asvamedha-the-rite-and-its-logic-subhash-kak

It's all researched by Subhash Kak. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 07:23, 15 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

I have finished my editing. But don't add any word which means "killing". Other than that, you can correct those Assamese words or sentences which you feel wrong. References are given. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 09:45, 15 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Revert my edits back or else I'm afraid I have to omit all of your efforts. I don't have such tool to revert an edit in one second. It took me hours to fix your biased editing. It's warning. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 10:00, 15 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

You had your time. You dare have the guts to omit a reference. Now, i have to omit your efforts in this article. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 13:06, 15 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Put Subhash Kak's source in "যজ্ঞৰ নিয়ম"। How can you be so sure that the horse was killed without reading the Vedas? Also change the meaning of Ashvamedha in introduction. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 07:55, 16 মে' 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

যজ্ঞৰ নিয়ম

প্ৰবন্ধটোত শেহয়াকৈ সংযোগ কৰা যজ্ঞৰ নিয়মৰ আৰম্ভণি অংশৰ ভাষাশৈলী দুৰ্বোধ্য বা ঠাইবিশেষে অৰ্থহীন। ই হয়তো আন ভাষাৰপৰা অসমীয়ালৈ সংশোধন অবিহনে কৰা যান্ত্ৰিক অনুবাদ অথবা সম্পাদকৰ অসমীয়া ভাষাৰ ওপৰত ৱিকিপিডিয়াৰ বাবে প্ৰয়োজনীয় দখল নাই। বিষয়টো প্ৰশাসকসকলৰ দৃষ্টিগোচৰ কৰিলোঁ।-Chandan Chiring Phukon ^Chat 12:53, 3 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Please write in English. I've left an editing summary where I've requested you to correct the Assamese word as i don't know the language. I can mention the pages from where I've translated them to Assamese. If you would like to re-edit what I've edited then tell me. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 14:10, 3 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

So, basically you are saying that you don't know the meaning of what you have added in the section. In that case, I would like to suggest that it is better to learn Assamese before editing in wikipedia, because lhe lines you have added mostly has no meaning at all. Till then you may choose to contribute to the wiki projects where you are comfortable regarding language. If you think that everytime you make a mess , others will rectify the same for you then it is not acceptable and not done. All the best.-Chandan Chiring Phukon ^Chat 14:22, 3 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Sorry to burst your bubbles but I wouldn't let your biased editing stay in a place like Wikipedia. You're well educated, aren't you? Then why didn't you discuss this before editing. Anyway, I'm mentioning the page numbers from where I've translated the ritual to Assamese. I've started the translation from page 30 "The Asvamedha Rite" (excluding 5 great sacrifices) to page 35 (excluding J.C. Heesterman's translation). Then again from page 36 full paragraph of "Initiation". Then from page 39 full paragraph of "Quiteing the Horse". Then from page 42 full paragraph of "Gifts".

Note: i didn't include "Forms & Names" and "Brahmodaya". If you feel necessary then add them. Best of luck on re-editing my edit. But don't try to omit all of my efforts. If you think that everytime you'll create whatever you want from English Wikipedia which isn't a reliable source at all and educate children by making Wikipedia's biased information into bookish knowledge then it's not acceptable for me. If you want to help then help. If you don't want to then delete the whole page you've made.

And can you give me a reliable source which suggests that Shubash Kak was a member of Hindu Renaissance as you're continuously putting his source in হিন্দু নৱজাগৰণৰ কালত like an arrogant? Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 19:20, 3 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

All the best.-Chandan Chiring Phukon ^Chat 03:43, 4 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

@Chandan Chiring Phukon  ^{hey you arrogant fool, I asked you a question where I wanted a reliable source which suggests that Shubash Kak was a Hindu Rennesiance member. And stop reverting my edits.}

Here's your "Manusmriti" which clearly says, "The man who offers a horse-sacrifice every year for a hundred years, and the man who does not eat meat, the two of them reap the same fruit of good deeds." Then why are you changing it to day? https://www.scribd.com/document/489446663/The-Laws-of-Manu-PDFDrive-pdf

And you better revert back my edit or translate the ritual given in "The Ashvamedha" book by Subash Kak. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 04:37, 4 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

@— গীতাৰ্থ বৰদলৈ, now don't block me again as you did before. I'm wanting a reliable sources yet he's ignoring questions. I've given a reliable source which has an explanation about the Ashvamedha Yajna ritual where I've mentioned that i can't write in Assamese as i don't know the language. So, I've just translated what was written in the book from English to Assamese using a translator on internet. And his Manusmriti source, from 53 verse, suggests that "horse sacrifice every year for a hundred years" and he's translating it into "প্রতিদিনে" which means "every day" in যজ্ঞৰ নিয়ম

So, please refrain him from doing edit warring as he can't answer my questions & give enough reliable sources. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 04:53, 4 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

@Chandan Chiring Phukon, it's been almost 6 hours & you've not done any editing yet from the book of Shubash Kak. If you want me to show you the pages from where I've translated them to Assamese, i can do it. As i can see you've a FB account & i can show those pages to you in messenger by taking screenshots. Just say yes or no. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 09:36, 4 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

@Nayan j Nath, first try reading this discussion & give me proofs that Shubash Kak was in Hindu Rennesiance or it's member.

And if you think my translation of the ritual was wrong then please edit by yourself. I can help you from where I took them. I know you have a Facebook ID. If you want then I can show you the pages from pdf in messenger by taking screenshots. Waiting for your answer. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 18:08, 5 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

@— গীতাৰ্থ বৰদলৈ, please prevent "Nayan J. Nath" from doing edit warring. He won't discuss the matter with me here. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 04:29, 6 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

Are you a brain dead idiot? I gave you enough proofs that translations vary where in this ritual a horse will be killed or not. First try to discuss you uneducated swine. Usoejw9 (বাৰ্তা) 07:57, 6 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)

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ইয়াত প্ৰায়েই সুভাস কাকৰ নাম উল্লেখ কৰা হৈছে যদিও তেওঁৰ বিষয়ে ইং ৱিকিত এইদৰে লিখা আছে: “Many scholars have rejected his theories on these topics in entirety, and his writings have been heavily criticized. Kak has been associated with Hindu fanatics and many scholars do not take his opinion seriously৷’’ — গীতাৰ্থ বৰদলৈ (বাৰ্তা) 18:55, 9 September 2022 (ইউ.টি.চি.)